- Wed May 11, 2016 1:34:08 am
#6954
Sierra wrote:Haha yep, it was new to me when I did it but it seems like other players in that game viewed it as a possible final challenge, meaning THEY'D seen it before too, lol. It's definitely in "circulation", or at least it was a few years back. It is by FAR the most will-based challenge you could possibly create for an ORG. Competing against THREE other people instead of two probably would only add to that.
Gut feeling if it's a "box" related multi-step FIC... Nad is taking this home and pairing the best social/strategic reputation with a late-game IC run to boot. She will obviously get the win if she makes the final but I really don't think she will... you just CAN'T be that big of a target and get away with it unless you're really able to establish bonds that get people to put their loyalty to you AHEAD of their own best interests. For awhile it looked like she had that in Dale, but based on recent updates I'm thinking her luck has run dry in that area. I know it's controversial to say this, but I tend to agree with Joaq's stance on this: wins that REQUIRE immunity wins (even if it is only the FIC) are really not that good, and that's one of very few things that a fellow finalist could use against her.
I was rooting for Nad but I've come to notice just how much of a pin that would put in the finale suspense if she were to get there, lmfao. I'd rather it be Val who played a slightly lower-key game but may ultimately have found herself in the best position to win. I mean from the looks of things she has a 75% chance of probably winning, adjusting for challenge ability obviously... I mean is that not true, am I missing something that only PMs would show? Val v. Dale v. Jac could be very interesting with this jury.
I actually have been very impressed with Val, and I get the whole contrarian thing that Joaq is doing, but ultimately I just HAVE to give props to Nadiya. She had 3/5 idols in this game. She found them privately and told no one until she felt she had to in the final 6. She played them reluctantly knowing it would expose her game, but really before that she was seen as a lackey to Val, which is totally inaccurate. She hasn't HAD to win every Immunity challenge, only the last 2 in the game.
I htink just because Nadiya's game is so obviously better, doesn't mean we have to try to overthink it. She played the best throughout the entire season in my opinion. Yes, Val has played flawlessly the past few rounds, but she only just now started playing.
Honestly, Joaq is coming across as a contrarian who has to go against the status quo because he wants to be the smartest person in the room. That's my take on it. I get what he's coming from, but that does not describe Nadiya to me.
Also, I feel like Dale isn't getting enough credit. Sure, he's terrible socially and he's a buffoon but the fact remains that more than anyone else in this game, he has shaped this season. He was the one making deals outside of Yali and because of those deals, everyone stuck with Yali to the finals. Without Dale promising them that he would flip on the Yali girls, the Yali girls would've been gone a long time ago, and that's nothing to scoff at. He's the only one who has had relationships with everyone in the game. Maybe he abused those relationships and will have to pay the piper, but I still think that is more worthy of a win than ignoring everyone in the game.
That's my take on it. Nadiya flawlessly controlled her alliance, which in turn controlled the whole game, and also dominated both strategically with idols and physically with challenges.
Val to me, is like Nadiya light. If Val was playing this way from the beginning, I would hands down give it to her, but Nadiya did everything Val is doing currently from the very beginning and better.
That's my read on it anyway.