12th Place | Voted Out 4-3
By Kelly Wigles
#792 Hi Sierra! Welcome to round 04! You mind giving me a rundown of what's been happening with the tribe so far?

Also, you'll soon find out who got voted off of the other tribe, just let us know what your reaction to it is when it happens.
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#820 I gotta catch up on some messages it looks like but so far I feel like I've been making headway if it doesn't get screwed up somehow.

No surprise at all, I would've gone all in on Keith if I had to bet who would be voted out tonight. Asmat is tight and holds the tiebreak, Missy hates Keith, seems like a match made in heaven. On the surface it looks like he got kinda thrown off course by the swap, but them's the breaks. I just want it to look like they have a total well-oiled machine over there to ensure that the Yalis in control over here don't want to piss off the minority here. I'll have a bigger update for you later <3
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#826 Don't you think that could backfire though? I mean if old Asmat looks like they're staying strong, wouldn't that put a target on all original Asmat's in the game?
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#831 It could, but not if we do our job making them feel as though we've separated from them. It could become a problem but it could also be a good thing. All depends on how good of a job we do I guess.

This is long overdue, safety may soon disappear.
The third round is a clue too, but not crystal clear.
Can you find safety in numbers, will you find where immunity is hiding?
Don't stall, it might be your fate they're deciding.

Just leaving that here too.
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#852 Rise and shine, time for an early morning update.

I feel like I was shitty last night with my generic messaging again with most of Yali. Dale is my favorite but he seems to think I told everyone that. Maybe I shouldn't have told him that yet. He's my second favorite player in the entire game behind Dan at the moment just by default but yet he won't believe that.

I like Val too. She's been the other one really encouraging me and telling me that "if things happen", I shouldn't worry. Could be horseshit in case she fears an idol play or something else, but I just highly doubt they will send me home before players who Dale himself called less active like Joaq and Max, unless they're dead set on getting rid of people who they think might fight harder or something.

I mean, I thought my PMs were getting encyclopedia-sized, but this kid Dale, he could go toe to toe with the best of us. I like his seemingly genuine attempts to get to know me and the others. Asking directly about ages and genders and trying to cut past to establish a more human connection. Pretty good socially, good instincts for a first-time player, or so he says. In fact I accidentally admitted to him I've played before because I had him pegged as relatively experienced just on first impressions.

I give myself a C+ since coming here in terms of infiltrating these guys. I think I've done ALMOST all I can in my position right now. We all know that the only idol that is definitely in the game right now is the one Jac handed out, and mum's been the word from them about that, naturally. No word on whether it was used at the first TC, and I doubt it was. I think she has it as well as the tiebreaker.

Problem is I probably like Jaclyn the least. She doesn't seem all that leaderish to me and I've gotten the least overall substance from her in PMs out of all 4 of them, with Nadiya a close second. I think Val and Dale are my favorites of the two, but Val, from how I took it, pretty much implied that it's gonna be a former Asmat leaving at our first Tribal together. If I want to make the merge, we better either start winning challenges or I have to really ramp up my game.

Joaquin gave Dan the clue that he apparently went for (I don't rule out the possibility that it's a fake clue, but I would be surprised), putting us at an automatic disadvantage at next immunity. Something to do with round 3 and Sunda. I'll let Dan do the hunting, I'm not trying to get caught looking for the idol via the "who is online" bar, especially after telling these guys I didn't take the clue, I'm not going for it, etc. And I'm telling the truth, but I'm not sure they'll believe me. Until my very forced and go-through-the-motions crappy night of messaging last night, they were telling me I'm in pretty good shape. They likely know they don't wanna go to the merge without the support of whichever Asmat people survive to that point, since linking up with the other old Yalis is far from a sure thing at this point for them.

Just to clarify, is the penalty for next IC increased for each player who accepts the clue?

I was really hoping that if we eventually reach a point with the four original Yali people, we can forfeit Max assuming he doesn't get an idol played on him somehow, and then maybe they'll throw us a bone back as a sign of unity or trust. With Jaclyn likely having plot armor for now due to her leader tag, I think that becomes a lot harder because on paper, I would have thought she'd be the closest thing to a crack just on day 1 impressions. But they might feel like they need her as a trump card. It's not easy to get much out of her and she's held cards close to the vest at this point. Over the next couple of days I'm going to be really cautious and try to observe whatever I can. Not jumping down people's throats with paranoid shit that makes them wanna boot me. I probably did some of that last night and hopefully it didn't turn them off me too hard.

The other issue with them possibly throwing us one Yali out of fairness (aside from the obvious fact that I don't know how tight they each are within their own group), is the fact that now I'm getting hints from Dale that they might view Joaq on the same plane they view Max in terms of being here a little less than most people, which is a very easy excuse they can use to send him out too.

I feel like Dan is probably doing the best job integrating right now. He doesn't reek of being a huge threat, but he's very social, he's smart, it's clear he hates So and the Asmat power structure with pages and pages of bickering with her to back him up on that. If I were Yali, I'd probably be all over aligning with Dan. Making my friendship with him that much more important, because I'd imagine he would at least try to protect me and be like "hey, we can use her" if my name came up to him.

I'd like to think I've done almost as good a job as Dan probably has, but not quite AS good. He likes to tell me I'm the "brains" of our operation, and I don't know if he actually feels that way or not, but I think he wants me to feel like I'm the leader in our little duo. I'm not having that, so I defer any decision I can right back to him. He's more natural in PMs than I am; his game is far less mechanical and he gives other players a lot more of his true self in the game. I don't think he concerns himself with being too fine in messages or coming off one way or another. I have a lot of respect for how effortlessly he can make progress with a person when he wants to. Joe and Joaq like him a lot, I love him, So and Kelly hate his guts but that's part of his charm. <3 He called out So to make sure she played the idol when no one else had the balls, which was impressive. He shits all over everyone and their mother for bad challenge performance and has no problem being the guy who brings up "the name".

And best of all, he has a great quality about him that makes him seem like he could be beatable in the end, yet also strikes me as the type who could really concoct an articulate FTC speech that's short, to the point, pretty charming, and hitting on all the key points that juries love to hear. And he claims he's better in challenges than we've seen so far to boot. I feel like I'm his top ally, and I hope that's the case because I'm actually pretty scared of the guy and what he might be capable of. He could really get into a position where he could dispose of me and ride this out with Yali, and they know they can count on him to spearhead Operation Fuck So once the merge hits... so why do they need me?

Oh right. They don't. They should get rid of me so quick. I'm the biggest mercenary in the game. I'd backstab anyone. I'd frontstab anyone. I'd fuck anyone over to get where I wanna get. Loyalty, I wipe my ass with it, most of the time at least. This is a fucking game. Sometimes I'll feel bad if I turn on someone or cause an elimination, but it'll never change the fact that I'm loyal to no one. My game comes first before anyone else's. Dan is a WAY better ally for these people than I'd be, and fuck, Joaq and Max probably are too. My objective is for them to not see that.
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#860 Lol really? It's not too much? I can't imagine anyone wanting to read them AFTER the game when it's all at once instead of one at a time, but yeah for now it's the only way to really sort all my thoughts in my head, to write em all down!

The truth is, with 4-5 days to integrate myself with NuYali, I should be fucking ashamed if I can't find a way to stick around. That's one thing I know. I was really worried I'd be a victim of Max's ire from my targeting him had we lost that immunity challenge, if Yali just wanted to play it safe. But now this is more than enough time and even though the Yalis have control and pretty evidently plan on sticking together at least for the first round, I'd be pretty annoyed with myself if I've presented myself in such a way that they would keep Joaq or Max over me. It's so hard to judge though, what people wanna hear, what they don't when you're just meeting them and you know you have to impress them within a limited number of messages that you'll get to exchange.

How much "meet and greet" is too much? How much "Yali4lyf" tribal pride bullshit is too much? PM-length, being careful not to overdo that. Being careful not to overdo game-talk. Being careful to sound like you're being honest about events at Asmat without sounding like I'm hiding things. Not giving away too much information and preparing for the distant possibility of yet another surprise swap, keeping that in the back of my mind to make sure I don't shit on old Asmat too bad. Shitting on old Asmat bad enough to where Yali doesn't get any crazy ideas about throwing immunity to save their boys Drew and Reed. One big balancing act. Gets tedious but it's more than doable.
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#873 Hmm, more rumors floating around our tribe about another swap coming up, which is keeping me a little bit hesitant to jump into anything long-term here because I do think I have an outside chance of making things work if I end up with any or all of the Kelly/So/Jenn camp.

I've thought long and hard about whether I think a swap is coming up. If it's a final 3, I suspect the jury starts at 11 or 12. Which means I think the merge will hit at 12. Four rounds on this Yali tribe is not too, too much, but yeah it is possible that there's another swap to really create chaos come the merge.

I think it's kind of unlikely. I really doubt that So or Jaclyn as leaders will be given another opportunity to shape their games with that sort of handpicking ability. Making me wonder if a mutiny opportunity or some other method of shuffling up tribes could be in the cards. I have to start thinking about what I would do in a mutiny situation, because I do think at least one of my fellow ex-Asmats (Max?) could jump on an opportunity like that. I still think Joaquin may be a buffer, but it's a lot less certain and Max is the one it seems Yali has bashed so far, at least to my face.

If I mutinied, Dan would be furious. It would be a very short-term gain (if even that) because I honestly don't think this Kelly and So train is going to be on the tracks for too long once the merge hits. Something like this could really screw my game because I'd be damned if I did, damned if I didn't.

Being one member down, I'd be surprised if So's crew of (presumably) 5 people viewed the idol as > the challenge coming up, especially considering they have enough votes to flush idols if Reed and Drew go for it, which maybe only one of them will anyway since they can share the clue.

Max is one person who probably has the potential to get me out of here this round if he establishes a genuine connection with these Yalis and makes them feel like they can trust him, but my belief is that he won't be able to, and considering they don't need his vote this round, I doubt they'll allow him to dictate who to send home. An idol though, ugh... I don't want to put 7 votes on Max and let him decide everything, I really don't. Maybe if the three of me, Dan and Joaq eventually agreed to vote Max, they could split the vote by putting one of their Yali votes on him, the other 3 on someone else just in case we were trying to trap them. I'm hoping they view me as someone who MIGHT be usable down the line to where my name wouldn't pop up in that situation.
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Sierra wrote:I'd fuck anyone over to get where I wanna get.

The first time I read this, I didn't notice the word "over" and thought "This is my kind of player!"
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#878 If there was a way to do that without breaking the anonymity rule, I assure you the word "over" would not have been there.
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#880 Well, at least now I know who's getting my Fan Favorite vote. icon_wub
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#884 <33

BTW can I have some help with this?

In the event of a pre-merge tie, the immunity bearer (including tribes) will always break the tie breaker with a final vote. There will be NO REVOTE. Post-merge works differently and is intentionally vague.


Tonight, you will face your first dilemma in the game. Both tribes must elect a leader. This person will make all of the important decisions on behalf of the tribe. They will break ties. They will dictate how challenges go. They could end up deciding your fate in this game.



Just wondering which one of these takes precedence over the other in the event of a pre-merge tie. I've been operating under the assumption that ties are broken by the leaders on the tribe that was voting unless there is no leader still left on the tribe, in which case the other rule would come in and the other tribe votes? I am really unclear about this whole situation...
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#887 Yeah I can't stand this tribe and I feel like I'm going home if we lose. None of them want to talk about anything. Dale is super paranoid because I sent him a short PM which is just so fucking annoying. Nadiya doesn't want to talk about the vote coming up even though it's right after the immunity challenge, which is a huge red flag. I'm unsure if Jaclyn, So, the other tribe collectively, or whoever breaks the tie, and I'm also not sure how many of the players in the game fully understand the correlation between those two rules, which could also impact strategy.

Dan wants to discard Max, Joaq has gotten to know Max better and feels like he could use him so he'd rather Max stay, vote as an Asmat block, and risk a 25% chance of running into Jaclyn's idol. I'd rather send home Max myself but now I'm really starting to wonder whether there's room for me on Yali at all. I'm reading the rules over and now I'm pretty sure that the opposing leader breaks all ties, which COULD keep me safe if I'm Yali's target, but obviously if I'm wrong about that it's a huge deal that could cost me my game.

Joaq has the best relationship with Max out of the three of myself, Dan and him. And it probably is only Dan's bond with Joaq that keeps Joaquin from viewing ME as more dispensable than even Max to his own game. I feel like as long as I survive the FIRST vote here, I'll be able to see what's really going on around here, but I'm less and less confident now that I'll be able to do that. Gotta be really mistake-free over the next 24 hours...
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#889 Is it possible or worth exploring to get all the old Asmats on the same page... let's try to find out.
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#890 Okay I was totally wrong about Joaquin. He's playing as hard as anyone.
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#909 Nerve-racking as hell. They really want Dan and he's going to be able to go far with the Yalis. Joaquin seems to be anti-Yali as does Max. I'm not sure if either of them turned on Asmat but it seems to me that they're being a lot more open with Dan than they are with me. But I can only hope that if that is the case that Dan would tell me, but I guess they have no reason to tell him.

If it wasn't for Dan I would be willing to go with the plan Joaq seems to be favoring and try to vote 4 strong on one of the Yalis, but I'm not sure if I can trust Max so I still think it's best to let him go, and plus that's the best way to prove my value to Dan, by agreeing with him. I also think that if Yali likes Dan better than they like me, it's another notch in his proverbial belt on my way to eventually becoming second fiddle to him, though it comes with a lot more short-term risk than I would like, as I'm clearly expendable to Yali if Max has turned (considering Joaq seems to agree with Max on how to approach this). If they feel like they have the support of both Joaq AND Max, then they would have no problems getting rid of me.

I want to start really pulling my weight in challenges starting tonight and show them I'm valuable and that it would be okay to let go of Max. I don't know... I don't like how unsure I feel right now.
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#916 Maybe it really will be Max tonight, or maybe me in a split vote situation lol... who knows? I feel like going through with this is a risk but I don't see any way of talking Dan out of this, leaving me no real choice but to just roll with the tide and PRAY that they don't take tonight to get me out.
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#925
I kind of explained the whole situation to them. Basically, thought of using So/Kelly as a target for them to focus on instead of us. The way I explained it, basically if they go against us we're flipping back to So/Kelly as soon as there's a swap or merge, and they're fucked. So, numbers wise I don't think it would make any sense for them to do a 4-3-1
- Joaquin

Really Joaq? Straight up threatening them. icon_laughing Idk... I'd almost rather he's lying to me and is playing me than actually went through with that, but whatever. Hopefully if they don't take kindly to that it makes him look bad to them, rather than us, because after this Max vote Joaq could easily be next if he gives them a reason to...
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#937 7 penalties. Guess who's number 8? It's been fun guys, thanks for the game. LOL
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#939 I was a huge help in that challenge. I'll go as far as saying that's now 2 straight challenges that we would not have won without me. And I want them to NOTICE that because it's not gonna be a regular thing.
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